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Starting from scratch

'The age of austerity that Cameron truly has in mind'

@ 3:28 pm, Tue 28th Apr 2009

Blogger and dare I say it, friend, Miljenko Williams, posts the following on his excellent blog at http://www.21stcenturyfix.org/:

EndFuelPoverty's Twitter feed tells us the following today:

"A survey by Help the Aged & British Gas last year showed that 1 in 3 older people have to live in 1 room during winter to keep warm"

This is, truly, the age of austerity that David Cameron's Conservative Party has in mind.

For the poverty - both literal and figurative - that the Tories are prepared to contemplate can really only get worse if they are elected.

That is, indeed, the rub.

Miljenko references a website here to add more background to his piece, which has the transcript of "David Cameron, interviewed by Jon Sopel on The Politics Show, 26 April 2009". Read the transcript for David Cameron's own words.

He can't keep getting away with it, surely. Anyway..

'Alan Johnson MP, Labour’s Health Secretary, responding to David Cameron’s speech yesterday, has summarised [the interview] thus:

"Today David Cameron once again showed that natural Tory instinct to make the many suffer to pay for tax cuts for the very wealthiest.

Behind all the marketing speak designed to disguise their true plans, David Cameron let slip today that he is considering cuts of £20 billion to public services and help for families.

He also revealed today that he is so determined to cut taxes for the 3,000 wealthiest estates in the country that if he had to then he would ‘put some taxes up’ to pay for it."

Tag for this article: Conservative policy?

A bit of an edit, 'just for fun' again, from Mongoloid.

Tags: Tossers  
@ 9:15 pm, Mon 27th Apr 2009

 

Cameron and Hanna

 

Dan Hannan MEP rubbishes the NHS on Fox News


by Brian Moylan, 'Mongoloid'.

 

 

Spain's jobless rate soars to 17%. GORDON! MY OFFICE, NOW!

@ 8:01 pm, Mon 27th Apr 2009

The BBC reported:

...

"Spain's unemployment rate hit 17.4% at the end of March, figures have shown, with the jobless total now having doubled over the past 12 months."

That Gordon Brown eh Dave, sheesh, no end to the destruction that he has caused.

HIM AND HIS RECESSION!

Let me guess.. it's because British holiday makers can't afford to go to Spain and.. OK I think I understand where Dave C will be coming from on this particular one...

They are talking about unemployment IN THIS COUNTRY actually reaching a level last seen under THE CONSERVATIVES; the last financial catastrophe they had to deal with happened in David Cameron's Department, The Treasury, during Black Wednesday on 16th September 1992.

Black Wednesday: Norman Lamont and advisor David Cameron raised interest rates by 2 percent in one day. They said they'd raise them again to 15% but the dealers didn't believe them and they kept selling sterling, forcing Lamont to pull the pound out of the Exchange Rate Mechanism after spending £27 billion of 'tax payers dollars' trying not to look like an idiot.

DID ANYONE SAY "SORRY"? No, but Chancellor Norman Lamont, with his sidekick during the fiasco, David Cameron (later to go on to be a PR man) managed "It's been a difficult day".

Interest rates went up to 15%. Thousands of people lost their homes. And as mentioned above, unemployment rose to terrible levels.

Anyway while we're on the subject of the PR trade, Dave's Conservatives have employed the services of PR consultancy firm, Pretty Little Head, run by two women, who believe they can reach a 'female audience by appealing to its "utopian impulse". It claims to use "scientific research" on gender differences, which controversially suggests that women are driven by a need to "tend and befriend", while men are ruled by an "achievement impulse".'

You know I am a "mongoloid" without an original thought in my head, so I better tell you how I know this information. It was in the Independent story "Cameron hires PR firm to get inside pretty little heads of female voters"

Tag for this article: Conservative moronity

P.S. Sorry that is quite an old story, just catching up on the news after a long time out of it.

[update]Wait.. David Cameron, you're a very naughty boy; you've been telling everyone in the UK that it's all been Gordon Brown's fault and nothing to do with an international banking crisis, or your mates, you know, the ones that you wine and dine, the investment bankers. It is now reported: "Kofi Annan: 'Greed' caused crisis". I think he might be a man who knows what he's talking about, being the former UN secretary general. Have you been telling fibs? You naughty boy, going to tell nursey.

I suppose the situation is entirely unrelated to "The Tories failed to back a ban on shortselling where City traders gamble on the collapse of a company. They also called for deregulation of the mortgage market." The story entitled: 'Probe shows Tories "in the pocket" of bankers'[/update]

The NHS.

@ 12:51 pm, Sun 26th Apr 2009

I think this situation really needs clarifying.

Cameron says I would have lived after the road accident I was involved in and not be worried about the cost and not have a lifelong debt for me and my family. "Throwing good money after bad" saving my life don't you think? Even if you don't, your main EU Parliamentary candidate for the South East thinks it probably was?

Dan Hannan MEP no doubt thinks it would be a waste to save my life. The institution that saved it has been a 60 year waste of time, that made people "iller". Unfortunately for you, in my case, it didn't.

NHS workers can do amazing things and do.

I know I'm not a high earner (so I am worth less), but please, just for once, be honest and say where you stand.

Cameron and Hanna

You have some circles to square.

Dan Hannan MEP rubbishes the NHS on Fox News


by Brian Moylan, 'Mongoloid'.

BNP says Asian and black Britons "do not exist"

Tags: Racist moronity  
@ 8:53 pm, Wed 22nd Apr 2009

Just so you know, if you're not White British (i.e. if you're one of these 'ethnics' etc), never expect to be accepted under the BNP. Even if you were born here, never expect to be accepted.

"We don't subscribe to the politically correct fiction that just because they happen to be born in Britain, a Pakistani is a Briton. They're not. They remain of Pakistani stock."

The "BNP Language And Concepts Discipline Manual" [incidentally pictured in a blog entry earlier this month], leaked to anti-fascist group Searchlight and seen by the BBC, says that "BNP activists and writers should never refer to 'black Britons' or 'Asian Britons' etc, for the simple reason that such persons do not exist."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2009/04_april/22/bnp.shtml

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National Front march, with the main marcher, the main man..

NG

....

A reminder.

Tags: G* protest.  
@ 1:47 am, Tue 21st Apr 2009
Police and Paramilitary Brutalization of Protestors at Genoa G8 summit

Police attack demonstrator July 20th-22nd 2001 has seen the worst police brutality on peaceful demonstrators in the European Union this century.

It happened on Live Television, was reported by Independent and Mainstream media, and many eye-witness accounts describe the incidents which took place. The killing of Carlo Giuliani on the streets of Genoa, Italy, was the most "newsworthy" story of protestor injury, however events unfolded which left many many other peaceful protestors and reporters seriously injured.
HERE is a copy of a story from a Sunday Times reporter who was present at the Genoa demonstration which verifies the police brutality served out to non-resistant non-violent protestors before and after they were held in police custody.
HERE is another diary of a protestor caught in the violence at the Genoa demonstrations from The Guardian (UK moderate left broadsheet.)

I have compiled various short lived headlines on one particularly brutal attack on the Headquarters of the [linknowdead]Genoa Social Forum[/linknowdead], the umbrella group in charge of peaceful demonstration at the Genoa summit.

This attack came in the dead of night, and consisted of a raid on the Independent Media Centre, the G.S.F. and a related building (an old school which was empty and undergoing building work and which was granted for use by the peaceful protestors with whom the G.S.F. associate.) HERE you will find a recording the the Live Webcast of GAP Radio taking place at the time of the police raid on the Independent Media Centre. Whilst at the centre police confiscated and destroyed electronic and video evidence of activities at the protests.

The school across the road was raided shortly after the police entered the Independent Media Centre. Police severely beat around 50 of the sleeping peaceful protestors after lining them up, and the walls and floors were covered in blood after the incident. Most were hospitalised, and some have not come out of coma at the time of compiling this page (23rd July 2001). Two of the people beaten at the school were members of the non-violent group "Globalise Resistance", and the are described thus:

[linknowdead]"Both Richard and Nicola are members of the anti-globalisation group Globalise Resistance. They are also members of public sector union UNISON, and went to Genoa as representatives of their union. They both work as Support Workers for people with learning disabilities. Neither of them attended the Direct Action protests which took place on Friday. The peaceful march on Saturday was the first demonstration Nicola had attended in her life."[/linknowdead]

Eye witness accounts of the raid were available at many mainstream media sites as well as alternative sources.

Reports:

Indymedia story of the raid
Yahoo story on the raid
BBC World Service Story about the raid on IMC/GSF/School (mp3 audio)
[linknowdead]Real Audio report hosted by BBC[/linknowdead]
Bill Hayton`s eyewitness account (HTML)

The Guardian Reports on the incident: "Police hit hard at core of dissent" "Riots force a review of summits"

The raid on the Genoa Social Forum and surrounding buildings is believed to have been a response by police to reports that various groups were in possession of documentary evidence of "infiltrators" and undercover police being the cause of some of the troubles in Genoa. Owing to the intimidation and physical condition of the reporters and protestors and confiscation and destruction of much of this evidence, little of the information has emerged so far.

 

Essential resource:
Genoa, 21-22 july 2001- dossier about violations of civil and human rights

Other resources of interest:
Account by Starhawk (personal description of the first day of protest)
Editorial from the New York Times: "What the protestors in Genoa want"

Posted by cruntUK 24/07/01.

Updated 1st December 2007 specifying dead links cruntUK@braindamage.org.uk

Date: Boxing Day (26th December) 2008

Updated on this incident this year.

The Guardian reports: "When 200,000 anti-globalisation protesters converged on the Italian city hosting the G8 summit in 2001, all but a handful came to demonstrate peacefully. Instead, many were beaten to a pulp by seemingly out-of-control riot police. But was there something more sinister at play? And will the victims ever see proper justice?"

This page linked from The Labour Party member's blog: Starting from scratch by Brian Moylan, Secretary, Vale of Clwyd Constituency Labour Party, 25 Kimnel Street, Rhyl.

Merry Christmas fellow human beings of Italy.

BNP cover-up

@ 12:15 pm, Sun 19th Apr 2009

The News of the World today reports:

Sneaky handbook tells members to wear hats to hide skinheads

By Jamie Lyons, 19/04/2009

Nick Griffin BNP Handbook

AN OFFICIAL handbook for BNP activists reveals how they plan to cover up the LIES and DECEIT behind their election campaigns.

It shows how the far-right party has drawn up schemes to smear Labour and the Tories in June Euro elections.

And it has advised members how to make sure plots to stir up violence stay secret in an attempt to con voters into thinking they are respectable.

The Activists' & Organisers' Handbook tells them to:

    * USE internet blogs to put out damaging stories about rivals.
    * NEVER advocate violence in emails-in case they are leaked.
    * ENSURE supporters wear hats over their skinhead haircuts when out campaigning.

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I guess this story should be seen also in the light of a certain fact:

A week or two ago, the BNP was represented in Milan as part of a group of Neo-Fascists.

"The meeting was organised by Forza Nuova, whose leader Roberto Fiore, was convicted in Italy in 1985 for “subversive association” for his involvement in the Armed Revolutionary Nuclei. Two members of that organisation were convicted for the Bologna railway station bombing in August 1980 which killed 85 people, including two British tourists, Catherine Mitchell and John Kolpinski, and left over 200 wounded. It was the biggest postwar terrorist attack in Europe."

Arrival

Simon Darby-Deputy Leader of BNP Greeted by fascist salutes in Milan

 

Euro-fascists together

Euro-fascists together

 

With this, take the fact that, according to Wikipedia, amongst their international affiliations are: Front National (France).

Now what do they say?

"Mein Kampf is my bible." (John Tyndall, founder of the BNP)

"Churchill was a fucking cunt who led us into a pointless war with other whites [i.e. The Nazis] standing up for their race." Mark Collett (Director of Publicity, BNP), On Winston Churchill

For more quotes go here.

Their 2005 Election Manifesto is available online, and it contains such 'BRITISHNESS'??? as "'Racism'.... is not a consequence of 'false consciousness', economics, imperialism or the work of evil agitators, it is part of human nature."

As you see, they are not at all Nazi, fascist or racist. It is us terrible left-wingers just "making them look bad"?

They do it all by themselves.

The NHS and the Conservative Party

Tags: LEARN  
@ 1:01 am, Sun 19th Apr 2009

Over the past 3/4 years I've been in the Labour Party, and considering the bad books they inherited (come to North Wales or anywhere outside the South-East to see how things have improved for the average guy), I reckon they've fought well against an entrenched pro-London, pro-Banking. pro-Neo-Liberal mindset that has tried to keep working people down and 'in their place'

The Labour Party cares, whereas you just pretend to.

You fight for those that try to keep people down, 'in their place'.

So I am in The Labour Party.

Tories, really, do not give a.... care as to how real PEOPLE are on the ground.

Ever.

Despite the Conservatives

So, David Cameron, both dispel the notion that you don't want to privatise the NHS, and back up Dan Hannan in his slagging off of the said institution?

Dan Hannan would have me dead, or any other 'common' person in the situation I found myself in; about that there is no argument. But Mr. Cameron, what do you say about this obviously 'broken situation', of you saying you defend the NHS, and supporting an MEP openly "AGAINST" the National Health Service??

P.S. Sorry for asking you a difficult question during your time of mourning.

Brain injury is not pleasant.

Being injured by other "humans" whilst you have one, even less so.

Why class WILL matter at the next general election - Must stop your sneering then Mr Conservative? :)

@ 9:17 pm, Sat 18th Apr 2009

Who's blogs would carry such an article 'Why class WILL matter at the next general election' with such "classy" analysis as: "Many of us still sneer at 'common' people and are suspicious of the upper class."

The 'debate' has replies such as "The left's hatred of anything outside their tribe means that sooner or later the blindness of rage will descend and the class card will be trotted out."

"Like a dog sniffing at a fresh lampost, they simply will not be able to stop themselves doing that which comes so naturally to them."

"I fully expect a return to smears as well because that is what the left do. For the lefties, smearing is a natural start to the process that, in Stalin's Russia and Mao's China, usually ended in a dark cell. Our lefties are denied the ending that their brothers abroad used so effectively so they just use character assassination and career destruction as their weapons of choice."

I would hope we don't; we leave that nasty stuff up to Conservative types to harrass "club-footed" "Mongoloids" and "Imbeciles" such as me.

Well, you guessed it, it's at the CentreRight/Conservativehome blogs.

The "analytical" posting ends "Next year Gordon Brown will lose his job, and a slew of his ministers will lose their seats, and a whole bunch of malevolent officials and hangers-on will be cast into irrelevance. They will deserve it. No class, you see."

Labour has the "class warfare" going on does it? :)

Tag for this article: Conservative moronity

Ku Klux Klan co-opting Martin Luther King

@ 11:51 am, Sat 18th Apr 2009

At the Christian Socialist Movement's website, Andy Flannagan in his blog writes:

Martin Luther King

"JESUS AND THE BNP

Nationalism is nothing new. The Jews of the first century were hoping for a national Messiah to once more turn them into “a great nation”, again operating as the political powerhouse of their region. But Jesus confounded their desires. What they got was someone who announced that justice, mercy and compassion were to be extended to insiders and outsiders, friends and enemies alike. He was always clear that his and our primary allegiance should to be to “the Kingdom of God”, and not to any earthly kingdom.

Placing our selfish desires ahead of Jesus’ values of hospitality and inclusion takes us into very dangerous territory indeed. Much of the BNP’s platform is the antithesis of this embrace and this advert would be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious.

The BNP’s co-option of Jesus is a bit like the Ku Klux Klan co-opting Martin Luther King."

It really is

[update] More on the condemnation of the BNP's tactics at another website: Christians, Jews, Muslims condemn BNP's Jesus posters[/update]

Marx and Nietzsche : Great philosophers

Tags: Marx   Nietzsche   philosophy  
@ 1:15 pm, Fri 10th Apr 2009

On voting for the "Greatest Philosopher of all time" at the BBC website there is a little audio clip of why Marx is more relevant today than ever: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/ram/gpv_adv_karl_marx.ram

Succinctly stated why, and how to understand, the clip says:

1) Read the original works.

2) Do not be put off by the portrayal of his works with any "communism" we have seen in history.

3) Do not believe "interpretations" used by despots.

4) "He's only just beginning to be discovered."

As I said in my first ever blog on here, Marxism is my main "belief".

I also know a small amount of Nietzsche's work, the main piece I knew intrigued me, as I said in my blog last month, the entry on Nietzsche and neurology.

This PHILOSOPHER *saw* the brain and thinking in a way that the medical books and medical people are only just discovering *with science*.

Of course, it is all 'irrelevant' 'rubbish' before it can be "scientifically proven"..

But when it is, the new elite take the credit.

[update 29/04/2009]The New Scientist magazine on 28th April 2009 reports on brain injury, thereby dispelling the notion I put forward in the closing couple of sentences of my original post... in an editorial subtitled "Concussed, stressed or just sick of war?". The military establishment have to get used to the fact that this injury is not "treatable" like some 'known condition' to them; it is way more complex and no amount of telling a soldier to "GET UP AND MARCH, NOW!" is going to sort it out for them (or for a commanding officer.)[/update]

....

Marx and Nietzsche : Great philosophers

Tags: Marx   Marx   Nietzsche   Nietzsche   philosophy   philosophy  
@ 1:15 pm, Fri 10th Apr 2009

On voting for the "Greatest Philosopher of all time" at the BBC website there is a little audio clip of why Marx is more relevant today than ever: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/ram/gpv_adv_karl_marx.ram

Succinctly stated why, and how to understand, the clip says:

1) Read the original works.

2) Do not be put off by the portrayal of his works with any "communism" we have seen in history.

3) Do not believe "interpretations" used by despots.

4) "He's only just beginning to be discovered."

As I said in my first ever blog on here, Marxism is my main "belief".

I also know a small amount of Nietzsche's work, the main piece I knew intrigued me, as I said in my blog last month, the entry on Nietzsche and neurology.

This PHILOSOPHER *saw* the brain and thinking in a way that the medical books and medical people are only just discovering *with science*.

Of course, it is all 'irrelevant' 'rubbish' before it can be "scientifically proven"..

But when it is, the new elite take the credit.

Marx and Nietzsche : Great philosophers

@ 1:15 pm, Fri 10th Apr 2009

On voting for the "Greatest Philosopher of all time" at the BBC website there is a little audio clip of why Marx is more relevant today than ever: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/ram/gpv_adv_karl_marx.ram

Succinctly stated why, and how to understand, the clip says:

1) Read the original works.

2) Do not be put off by the portrayal of his works with any "communism" we have seen in history.

3) Do not believe "interpretations" used by despots.

4) "He's only just beginning to be discovered."

As I said in my first ever blog on here, Marxism is my main "belief".

I also know a small amount of Nietzsche's work, the main piece I knew intrigued me, as I said in my blog last month, the entry on Nietzsche and neurology.

This PHILOSOPHER *saw* the brain and thinking in a way that the medical books and medical people are only just discovering *with science*.

Of course, it is all 'irrelevant' 'rubbish' before it can be "scientifically proven"..

But when it is, the new elite take the credit.

Nick Griffin, Cook Report, 1997

Tags: Moronity  
@ 12:30 am, Thu 9th Apr 2009

A few quotes:

On the holocaust: "It's nonsense about gas chambers, it's exposed as a total lie."

On multiculturalism: Q:"what do you want to do, send them all home?" A:"Yes"

Tag for this article: Moronity

Also see a relatively recent speech regarding "black people" and Obama.

 

P.S. Also feel free to take The BNP Quiz (a real 'tester')

Nick Griffin, Cook Report, 1997

Tags: Moronity   Moronity  
@ 12:30 am, Thu 9th Apr 2009

A few quotes:

On the holocaust: "It's nonsense about gas chambers, it's exposed as a total lie."

On multiculturalism: Q:"what do you want to do, send them all home?" A:"Yes"

Tag for this article: Moronity

Also see a relatively recent speech regarding "black people" and Obama.

 

P.S. Also feel free to take The BNP Quiz (a real 'tester')

Nick Griffin, Cook Report, 1997

Tags: Moronity   Moronity   Moronity  
@ 12:30 am, Thu 9th Apr 2009

A few quotes:

On the holocaust: "It's nonsense about gas chambers, it's exposed as a total lie."

On multiculturalism: Q:"what do you want to do, send them all home?" A:"Yes"

Tag for this article: Moronity

Also see a relatively recent speech regarding "black people" and Obama.

 

P.S. Also feel free to take The BNP Quiz (a real 'tester')

Berlusconi: Italy earthquake victims should view experience as camping weekend

@ 6:21 pm, Wed 8th Apr 2009

Italian prime minister causes outrage with quip made during interview following country's worst earthquake in three decades

 

People are homeless and living in tents, what fun

"The Italian prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, today sparked controversy when he said the 17,000 people made homeless by Monday's earthquake should think of themselves as being on a "camping weekend"."

I must admit  to being an 'imbecile' in not 'loving' Mr Berlusconi's humour.

Tag for this article: Conservative moronity

Berlusconi: Italy earthquake victims should view experience as camping weekend

@ 6:21 pm, Wed 8th Apr 2009

Italian prime minister causes outrage with quip made during interview following country's worst earthquake in three decades

 

People are homeless and living in tents, what fun

"The Italian prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, today sparked controversy when he said the 17,000 people made homeless by Monday's earthquake should think of themselves as being on a "camping weekend"."

I must admit  to being an 'imbecile' in not 'loving' Mr Berlusconi's humour.

Tag for this article: Conservative moronity

Berlusconi: Italy earthquake victims should view experience as camping weekend

@ 6:21 pm, Wed 8th Apr 2009

Italian prime minister causes outrage with quip made during interview following country's worst earthquake in three decades

 

People are homeless and living in tents, what fun

"The Italian prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, today sparked controversy when he said the 17,000 people made homeless by Monday's earthquake should think of themselves as being on a "camping weekend"."

I must admit  to being an 'imbecile' in not 'loving' Mr Berlusconi's humour.

Tag for this article: Conservative moronity

Devastation in Italy

Tags: humans   Italy  
@ 12:53 am, Tue 7th Apr 2009

All day reports have been hitting the UK from Italy of the earthquake that hit the town of L'Aquila in central Italy in the early hours.

L'Aquila after the earthquake

Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, who is in the city, has promised a "record number of rescuers".

"Nobody has been left on their own," he said, adding that a field hospital was being set up to help local medical services. Earlier, he declared a state of emergency.

A team from the UK (UNITED KINGDOM) has joined the rescue efforts.

I hope that some good work may be done to help our fellow Italian brethren.

'Io spero'.

Devastation in Italy

Tags: humans   humans   Italy   Italy  
@ 12:53 am, Tue 7th Apr 2009

All day reports have been hitting the UK from Italy of the earthquake that hit the town of L'Aquila in central Italy in the early hours.

L'Aquila after the earthquake

Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, who is in the city, has promised a "record number of rescuers".

"Nobody has been left on their own," he said, adding that a field hospital was being set up to help local medical services. Earlier, he declared a state of emergency.

A team from the UK (UNITED KINGDOM) has joined the rescue efforts.

I hope that some good work may be done to help our fellow Italian brethren.

'Io spero'.

Devastation in Italy

Tags: humans   humans   humans   Italy   Italy   Italy  
@ 12:53 am, Tue 7th Apr 2009

All day reports have been hitting the UK from Italy of the earthquake that hit the town of L'Aquila in central Italy in the early hours.

L'Aquila after the earthquake

Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, who is in the city, has promised a "record number of rescuers".

"Nobody has been left on their own," he said, adding that a field hospital was being set up to help local medical services. Earlier, he declared a state of emergency.

A team from the UK (UNITED KINGDOM) has joined the rescue efforts.

I hope that some good work may be done to help our fellow Italian brethren.

'Io spero'.

Hannan blows Cameron out of the water. Ooops. Friendly fire.. Do not Panic....

@ 12:51 am, Mon 6th Apr 2009

The Guardian today (ok yesterday, it's gone midnight) reported: [Aww look at his nice face :)]Tory.. person, nice, not nasty..

"..the Conservative leader, was today challenged by Labour to disown one of his MEPs who described the NHS as a "mistake" that "made people iller".

The remarks are particularly embarrassing for Cameron because they were made by Daniel Hannan, the Eurosceptic whose popularity with grassroots Tories soared after a video of his speech attacking Gordon Brown in the European parliament attracted more than 1m views on YouTube."

After David Cameron's recent campaigning apparently "for" the NHS, I think that this situation could be described as the nice cuddly-wuddly, and not nasty, Conservative Party "DROPPING A BOLLOCK (Dan Hannan MEP rubbishes the NHS on Fox News)" (apparently Cameron "VOWED" to defend a free NHS.)

"Coherency" again?

Tag for this article: Conservative moronity

Hannan blows Cameron out of the water. Ooops. Friendly fire.. Do not Panic....

@ 12:51 am, Mon 6th Apr 2009

The Guardian today (ok yesterday, it's gone midnight) reported: [Aww look at his nice face :)]Tory.. person, nice, not nasty..

"..the Conservative leader, was today challenged by Labour to disown one of his MEPs who described the NHS as a "mistake" that "made people iller".

The remarks are particularly embarrassing for Cameron because they were made by Daniel Hannan, the Eurosceptic whose popularity with grassroots Tories soared after a video of his speech attacking Gordon Brown in the European parliament attracted more than 1m views on YouTube."

After David Cameron's recent campaigning apparently "for" the NHS, I think that this situation could be described as the nice cuddly-wuddly, and not nasty, Conservative Party "DROPPING A BOLLOCK (Dan Hannan MEP rubbishes the NHS on Fox News)" (apparently Cameron "VOWED" to defend a free NHS.)

"Coherency" again?

Tag for this article: Conservative moronity

Hannan blows Cameron out of the water. Ooops. Friendly fire.. Do not Panic....

@ 12:51 am, Mon 6th Apr 2009

The Guardian today (ok yesterday, it's gone midnight) reported: [Aww look at his nice face :)]Tory.. person, nice, not nasty..

"..the Conservative leader, was today challenged by Labour to disown one of his MEPs who described the NHS as a "mistake" that "made people iller".

The remarks are particularly embarrassing for Cameron because they were made by Daniel Hannan, the Eurosceptic whose popularity with grassroots Tories soared after a video of his speech attacking Gordon Brown in the European parliament attracted more than 1m views on YouTube."

After David Cameron's recent campaigning apparently "for" the NHS, I think that this situation could be described as the nice cuddly-wuddly, and not nasty, Conservative Party "DROPPING A BOLLOCK (Dan Hannan MEP rubbishes the NHS on Fox News)" (apparently Cameron "VOWED" to defend a free NHS.)

"Coherency" again?

Tag for this article: Conservative moronity

Lib Dems support the far right, again.

@ 6:06 pm, Sun 5th Apr 2009

The Liberal Democrats supporting the hard right seems to be an unwritten policy;

The Telegraph reported: "Senior MEPs, across the political spectrum, are angry that Mr Le Pen, who will almost certainly be re-elected as NF leader, will then preside as "father" or "doyen" over the opening of the new European Union assembly on July 14, a date that also marks the French national day."

Martin Schulz, a German Social Democrat and leader of the parliament's Socialists, will table a rule change to block Mr Le Pen, who has past criminal convictions for describing Auschwitz as "a detail of history".

"I am concerned by the fact that a Holocaust denier could preside over the opening session of the European Parliament," he said

"It is not imperative that the oldest MEP presides over the inaugural session."

Officials have suggested that a rule change would have majority support from MEPS.

"Europe is built on the ashes of Nazism and nobody will want to give Le Pen this prominence," said an official.

Mr Le Pen responded defiantly, calling the proposal an “imbecilic suggestion".

[Where have we heard the word "imbecile" recently? Oh it was Silvio Berlusconi]

"

"I think I still scare people. I'm still demonised,” he said.

A rule change would require agreement by leaders of the parliamentary groups in the EU chamber.

So far, only the Liberals, led by Graham Watson, a British Lib Dem MEP, have opposed the proposal.

"There is no reason to treat Mr Le Pen differently from others, even if we hate his politics," he said.

"

Le Pen is, isn't he
[update 07/05/2009] The BBC Reports: Euro MPs bar Le Pen from top role

"MEPs have changed the European Parliament's rules to prevent the French far-right leader, Jean-Marie Le Pen, from presiding over the assembly.

They voted overwhelmingly to change a rule that says the oldest member chairs the inaugural session of the new parliament after a European election."

(I'm real cut up about that guy's rights)

[/update]

Lib Dems support the far right, again.

@ 6:06 pm, Sun 5th Apr 2009

The Liberal Democrats supporting the hard right seems to be an unwritten policy;

The Telegraph reported: "Senior MEPs, across the political spectrum, are angry that Mr Le Pen, who will almost certainly be re-elected as NF leader, will then preside as "father" or "doyen" over the opening of the new European Union assembly on July 14, a date that also marks the French national day."

Martin Schulz, a German Social Democrat and leader of the parliament's Socialists, will table a rule change to block Mr Le Pen, who has past criminal convictions for describing Auschwitz as "a detail of history".

"I am concerned by the fact that a Holocaust denier could preside over the opening session of the European Parliament," he said

"It is not imperative that the oldest MEP presides over the inaugural session."

Officials have suggested that a rule change would have majority support from MEPS.

"Europe is built on the ashes of Nazism and nobody will want to give Le Pen this prominence," said an official.

Mr Le Pen responded defiantly, calling the proposal an “imbecilic suggestion".

[Where have we heard the word "imbecile" recently? Oh it was Silvio Berlusconi]

"

"I think I still scare people. I'm still demonised,” he said.

A rule change would require agreement by leaders of the parliamentary groups in the EU chamber.

So far, only the Liberals, led by Graham Watson, a British Lib Dem MEP, have opposed the proposal.

"There is no reason to treat Mr Le Pen differently from others, even if we hate his politics," he said.

"

Lib Dems support the far right, again.

@ 6:06 pm, Sun 5th Apr 2009

The Liberal Democrats supporting the hard right seems to be an unwritten policy;

The Telegraph reported: "Senior MEPs, across the political spectrum, are angry that Mr Le Pen, who will almost certainly be re-elected as NF leader, will then preside as "father" or "doyen" over the opening of the new European Union assembly on July 14, a date that also marks the French national day."

Martin Schulz, a German Social Democrat and leader of the parliament's Socialists, will table a rule change to block Mr Le Pen, who has past criminal convictions for describing Auschwitz as "a detail of history".

"I am concerned by the fact that a Holocaust denier could preside over the opening session of the European Parliament," he said

"It is not imperative that the oldest MEP presides over the inaugural session."

Officials have suggested that a rule change would have majority support from MEPS.

"Europe is built on the ashes of Nazism and nobody will want to give Le Pen this prominence," said an official.

Mr Le Pen responded defiantly, calling the proposal an “imbecilic suggestion".

[Where have we heard the word "imbecile" recently? Oh it was Silvio Berlusconi]

"

"I think I still scare people. I'm still demonised,” he said.

A rule change would require agreement by leaders of the parliamentary groups in the EU chamber.

So far, only the Liberals, led by Graham Watson, a British Lib Dem MEP, have opposed the proposal.

"There is no reason to treat Mr Le Pen differently from others, even if we hate his politics," he said.

"

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